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T O P I C R E V I E WVoix_de_la_Mer quote:SAN FRANCISCO/NEW YORK (Reuters) - For three years, adherents of the sprawling QAnon conspiracy theory awaited a so-called Great Awakening, scouring anonymous web postings from a shadowy “Q” figure and parsing statements by former U.S. President Donald Trump, whom they believed to be their champion.On Wednesday, they grappled with a harsh reality check: Trump had left office with no mass arrests or other victories against the supposed cabal of Satan-worshipping pedophile cannibal elites, especially Democrats, he was ostensibly fighting.Instead, Democratic President Joseph Biden was calmly sworn into office, leaving legions of QAnon faithful struggling to make sense of what had transpired.In one Telegram channel with more than 18,400 members, QAnon believers were split between those still urging others to ‘trust the plan’ and those saying they felt betrayed. “It’s obvious now we’ve been had. No plan, no Q, nothing,” wrote one user.Some messages referenced theories that a coup was going to take place before the end of Inauguration Day. Others moved the goalposts again, speculating that Trump would be sworn into office on Mar. 4.“Does anybody have any idea what we should be waiting for next or what the next move could be?” asked another user, who said they wanted to have a ‘big win’ and arrests made.Jared Holt, a disinformation researcher at the Atlantic Council, said he had never before seen disillusionment in the QAnon communities he monitors at this scale.“It’s the whole ‘trust the plan’ thing. Q believers have just allowed themselves to be strung from failed promise to failed promise.”“The whole movement is called into question now.” http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-biden-qanon/no-plan-no-q-nothing-qanon-followers-reel-as-biden-inaugurated-idUSKBN29P2VO ------------------Face a situation fearlessly, and there is no situation to face~ Florence Scovel Shinn ~iQThe QAnon Cult have lost everything, they broke away from their loved ones, friends & families in their worship of Trump as Q+ and "Q" as their Military leader.I long suspected QAnon to be a Russian Psy-Op judging by the numerical codes in twitter of those who amplified the QAnon messaging plus the Dark Web Servers based in Russia/East Europe. In the next few months the exact facts will be hopefully discovered. Now, the suspected terrorist group called "Proud Boys" is calling Trump a "Shill" after declaring him as Emperor on Nov 8th. http://news.yahoo.com/proud-boys-ditching-trump-hours-032833037.html?.tsrc=daily_mail&uh_test=2_04 It is as if Mass Hysteria gripped all White Supremacists for 5 years, and they have to be slowly deprogrammed else they will drink the Jonestown Kool Aid...RandallI don't know why you keep equating Trump supporters with white supremacy. The two are mutually exclusive. By and far the vast majority of supporters of President Trump (well over 99 percent) are quite the opposite. That being said, I might consider QAnon to be cultish, but MAGA is a movement that put America first and made this country an economic marvel and energy independent. That movement lives on and will continue. President Trump merely lit the initial spark. It burns on!Belage quote:Originally posted by Randall:I don't know why you keep equating Trump supporters with white supremacy. The two are mutually exclusive. By and far the vast majority of supporters of President Trump (well over 99 percent) are quite the opposite. That being said, I might consider QAnon to be cultish, but MAGA is a movement that put America first and made this country an economic marvel and energy independent. That movement lives on and will continue. President Trump merely lit the initial spark. It burns on!It is part of a concerted repressive disinformation effort. If you label Trump supporters white supremacists, you can legally deprive them of first amendment right, freedom of speech, you can legally censor and deplatform them, all the while wrapping yourself in the virtuous flag of anti-fascim and defender of democracy. But it does not stop there. Eventually, you can advocate for them to be fired and lose their livelyhood. This phase has already started. The goal is to get them to shut up, to be docile and follow the program. If they won't submit, then their total destruction becomes fair game. I have no idea if those who are parroting this tactic are doing so willfully or out of ignorance of the consequences of their words. Only God knows what's in their hearts.teaselWhy was my thread about white supremacists being the biggest domestic terror threat, ignored when I posted it? I don’t recall trump supporters acknowledging it, and agreeing that they are a threat. teasel quote:Originally posted by Belage: It is part of a concerted repressive disinformation effort. If you label Trump supporters white supremacists, you can legally deprive them of first amendment right, freedom of speech, you can legally censor and deplatform them, all the while wrapping yourself in the virtuous flag of anti-fascim and defender of democracy. But it does not stop there. Eventually, you can advocate for them to be fired and lose their livelyhood. This phase has already started. The goal is to get them to shut up, to be docile and follow the program. If they won't submit, then their total destruction becomes fair game. I have no idea if those who are parroting this tactic are doing so willfully or out of ignorance of the consequences of their words. Only God knows what's in their hearts.Kind of like Trump using pizzagate/q to rile up people susceptible to things like that, in order to get votes from people who would never have chosen him otherwise. Who would want to vote for satan-worshipping, baby-eating pedophiles? It’s sick that some people hated Hillary so much, that they would believe such idiocy. But of course, trump is the most demonized person. He also had no plans to deal with coronavirus, and to help us, but he knew that if he shouted about freedom and rights, you would line up and scream with him, and even agree that people should die for the economy. He knew that if he went on about those unable to attend church *in person* you would get distracted and angry enough to demand that they be opened up again. teaselVoix, I’ve seen q supporters doubling down on things like Instagram. Some are waiting for March 4th. They think trump will show up and save the day. I’ve seen people posting pictures of weapons (big guns, filling cabinets). Dr Joseph arena linked to his back-up account, that is all about guns and the second amendment. He linked with a picture showing a gun hidden in his pocket (concealed carry), saying “I am the man behind you in line at the grocery store...) and it went on. It’s disturbing. teaselThis looks very much like someone living in fear: http://www.instagram.com/p/CDw8fLQJpQP/?igshid=14huke6tmi63m and it freaks me out. Belage quote:Originally posted by teasel: Kind of like Trump using pizzagate/q to rile up people susceptible to things like that, in order to get votes from people who would never have chosen him otherwise. Who would want to vote for satan-worshipping, baby-eating pedophiles? It’s sick that some people hated Hillary so much, that they would believe such idiocy. But of course, trump is the most demonized person. He also had no plans to deal with coronavirus, and to help us, but he knew that if he shouted about freedom and rights, you would line up and scream with him, and even agree that people should die for the economy. He knew that if he went on about those unable to attend church *in person* you would get distracted and angry enough to demand that they be opened up again. As expected, you did not address the serious implications of labeling half of the country "white supremacists". You are entitled to your opinion. I am not interested in engaging you further on this issue. shuraI looked in on a few private groups last night. oof. I'm happy so many are now forced to acknowledge the psyop, but this is a big hit to their egos and their hopes. I'm worried for them. Plenty of grifters in those ranks, yes. Some genuinely disturbed. A handful I would consider potentially dangerous. Most are decent people whose concerns have been taken advantage of.shura quote:But it does not stop there. Eventually, you can advocate for them to be fired and lose their livelyhood. This phase has already started. The goal is to get them to shut up, to be docile and follow the program. If they won't submit, then their total destruction becomes fair game.indeed. Half the country is being dehumanized as we speak, ironically by the very people so quick to call them nazis.RandallLet's see how many thousands of people die each day of COVID under Biden's watch. Surely, you will acknowledge that, teasel? shuraRandall, there will be no need. Note the date http://www.who.int/news/item/20-01-2021-who-information-notice-for-ivd-users-2020-05
quote:SAN FRANCISCO/NEW YORK (Reuters) - For three years, adherents of the sprawling QAnon conspiracy theory awaited a so-called Great Awakening, scouring anonymous web postings from a shadowy “Q” figure and parsing statements by former U.S. President Donald Trump, whom they believed to be their champion.On Wednesday, they grappled with a harsh reality check: Trump had left office with no mass arrests or other victories against the supposed cabal of Satan-worshipping pedophile cannibal elites, especially Democrats, he was ostensibly fighting.Instead, Democratic President Joseph Biden was calmly sworn into office, leaving legions of QAnon faithful struggling to make sense of what had transpired.In one Telegram channel with more than 18,400 members, QAnon believers were split between those still urging others to ‘trust the plan’ and those saying they felt betrayed. “It’s obvious now we’ve been had. No plan, no Q, nothing,” wrote one user.Some messages referenced theories that a coup was going to take place before the end of Inauguration Day. Others moved the goalposts again, speculating that Trump would be sworn into office on Mar. 4.“Does anybody have any idea what we should be waiting for next or what the next move could be?” asked another user, who said they wanted to have a ‘big win’ and arrests made.Jared Holt, a disinformation researcher at the Atlantic Council, said he had never before seen disillusionment in the QAnon communities he monitors at this scale.“It’s the whole ‘trust the plan’ thing. Q believers have just allowed themselves to be strung from failed promise to failed promise.”“The whole movement is called into question now.” http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-biden-qanon/no-plan-no-q-nothing-qanon-followers-reel-as-biden-inaugurated-idUSKBN29P2VO
On Wednesday, they grappled with a harsh reality check: Trump had left office with no mass arrests or other victories against the supposed cabal of Satan-worshipping pedophile cannibal elites, especially Democrats, he was ostensibly fighting.
Instead, Democratic President Joseph Biden was calmly sworn into office, leaving legions of QAnon faithful struggling to make sense of what had transpired.
In one Telegram channel with more than 18,400 members, QAnon believers were split between those still urging others to ‘trust the plan’ and those saying they felt betrayed. “It’s obvious now we’ve been had. No plan, no Q, nothing,” wrote one user.
Some messages referenced theories that a coup was going to take place before the end of Inauguration Day. Others moved the goalposts again, speculating that Trump would be sworn into office on Mar. 4.
“Does anybody have any idea what we should be waiting for next or what the next move could be?” asked another user, who said they wanted to have a ‘big win’ and arrests made.
Jared Holt, a disinformation researcher at the Atlantic Council, said he had never before seen disillusionment in the QAnon communities he monitors at this scale.
“It’s the whole ‘trust the plan’ thing. Q believers have just allowed themselves to be strung from failed promise to failed promise.”
“The whole movement is called into question now.” http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-biden-qanon/no-plan-no-q-nothing-qanon-followers-reel-as-biden-inaugurated-idUSKBN29P2VO
------------------Face a situation fearlessly, and there is no situation to face~ Florence Scovel Shinn ~
Now, the suspected terrorist group called "Proud Boys" is calling Trump a "Shill" after declaring him as Emperor on Nov 8th. http://news.yahoo.com/proud-boys-ditching-trump-hours-032833037.html?.tsrc=daily_mail&uh_test=2_04
It is as if Mass Hysteria gripped all White Supremacists for 5 years, and they have to be slowly deprogrammed else they will drink the Jonestown Kool Aid...
quote:Originally posted by Randall:I don't know why you keep equating Trump supporters with white supremacy. The two are mutually exclusive. By and far the vast majority of supporters of President Trump (well over 99 percent) are quite the opposite. That being said, I might consider QAnon to be cultish, but MAGA is a movement that put America first and made this country an economic marvel and energy independent. That movement lives on and will continue. President Trump merely lit the initial spark. It burns on!
It is part of a concerted repressive disinformation effort. If you label Trump supporters white supremacists, you can legally deprive them of first amendment right, freedom of speech, you can legally censor and deplatform them, all the while wrapping yourself in the virtuous flag of anti-fascim and defender of democracy.
But it does not stop there. Eventually, you can advocate for them to be fired and lose their livelyhood. This phase has already started. The goal is to get them to shut up, to be docile and follow the program. If they won't submit, then their total destruction becomes fair game.
I have no idea if those who are parroting this tactic are doing so willfully or out of ignorance of the consequences of their words. Only God knows what's in their hearts.
quote:Originally posted by Belage: It is part of a concerted repressive disinformation effort. If you label Trump supporters white supremacists, you can legally deprive them of first amendment right, freedom of speech, you can legally censor and deplatform them, all the while wrapping yourself in the virtuous flag of anti-fascim and defender of democracy. But it does not stop there. Eventually, you can advocate for them to be fired and lose their livelyhood. This phase has already started. The goal is to get them to shut up, to be docile and follow the program. If they won't submit, then their total destruction becomes fair game. I have no idea if those who are parroting this tactic are doing so willfully or out of ignorance of the consequences of their words. Only God knows what's in their hearts.
Kind of like Trump using pizzagate/q to rile up people susceptible to things like that, in order to get votes from people who would never have chosen him otherwise. Who would want to vote for satan-worshipping, baby-eating pedophiles? It’s sick that some people hated Hillary so much, that they would believe such idiocy. But of course, trump is the most demonized person.
He also had no plans to deal with coronavirus, and to help us, but he knew that if he shouted about freedom and rights, you would line up and scream with him, and even agree that people should die for the economy. He knew that if he went on about those unable to attend church *in person* you would get distracted and angry enough to demand that they be opened up again.
quote:Originally posted by teasel: Kind of like Trump using pizzagate/q to rile up people susceptible to things like that, in order to get votes from people who would never have chosen him otherwise. Who would want to vote for satan-worshipping, baby-eating pedophiles? It’s sick that some people hated Hillary so much, that they would believe such idiocy. But of course, trump is the most demonized person. He also had no plans to deal with coronavirus, and to help us, but he knew that if he shouted about freedom and rights, you would line up and scream with him, and even agree that people should die for the economy. He knew that if he went on about those unable to attend church *in person* you would get distracted and angry enough to demand that they be opened up again.
As expected, you did not address the serious implications of labeling half of the country "white supremacists".
You are entitled to your opinion. I am not interested in engaging you further on this issue.
quote:But it does not stop there. Eventually, you can advocate for them to be fired and lose their livelyhood. This phase has already started. The goal is to get them to shut up, to be docile and follow the program. If they won't submit, then their total destruction becomes fair game.
indeed. Half the country is being dehumanized as we speak, ironically by the very people so quick to call them nazis.
Note the date http://www.who.int/news/item/20-01-2021-who-information-notice-for-ivd-users-2020-05
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